Fr. Gruner on the Consecration of Russia Being Done....

[Dawn Marie]

This was sent to me this morning from someone and last night from another person...

"The prophecy as described by Frs. Gruner & Kramer, the third Secret will be revealed after war breaks out (third secret has not yet been revealed), Russia invades Europe, the Pope goes into hiding, gets killed, disaster 2 or 3 years, new Pope elected and does the consecration. According to Ruffini the legitimate successor of Benedict XVI will consecrate Russia. A bad Pope can consecrate Russia, but an Anti-Pope cannot because he is not a Pope."

[Dawn Marie]

I have no choice but to go with what they have already spoken on this matter but even more importantly what Our Lord has spoken on this matter to Sister Lucia in 1940.  I have no choice but to conclude that yesterday did not achieve the actual consecration of Russia for more than just a few reasons, not the least of which is the wording, which Our Lord already said does not fulfill His wishes.

If I have to stand alone on this then so be it, but I will continue to do penance. pray and sacrifice for what Our Lord and Lady asked for to be done AS THEY ASKED. 

When Pius the XII consecrated the world it led to a mass misunderstanding for years and years by the faithful that the requests of Heaven were done.  Let's not fall into that trap again.

[Dawn Marie]

THE WHOLE TRUTH ABOUT FATIMA

THE DIVINE COMMUNICATION OF OCTOBER 22, 1940.

Here is the brief account which Sister Lucy retraced for Father Gonçalves, and recopied herself six months later.

«22-10-1940 – I received a letter from Father J. B. G. and the Bishop of Gurza telling me to write to His Holiness... With this purpose in view, I spent two hours on my knees before Our Lord exposed in the Blessed Sacrament: “Pray for the Holy Father, sacrifice yourself so that his courage does not succumb under the bitterness that oppresses him. The tribulation will continue and augment. I will punish the nations for their crimes by war, famine and persecution of My Church and this will weigh especially upon My Vicar on earth. His Holiness will obtain an abbreviation of these days of tribulation if he takes heed of My wishes by promulgating the Act of Consecration of the whole world to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, with a special mention of Russia.”»

What then were Heaven’s designs? The consecration of the world or the consecration of Russia? This question has been endlessly muddled. It is important that it be clear:

1. At Fatima in 1917, as well as at Tuy in 1929, the Most Holy Virgin, speaking in the name of God, asked for only one consecration: the consecration of Russia by the Holy Father and all the bishops of the Catholic world. And as we have seen, until Lucy’s letter of July 15, 1940, that was the only consecration ever in question.
2. The revelation of October 22, 1940, therefore indicates a request which was both completely new and secondary in the context of the principal message of Fatima, which remained definitively centred around the consecration and conversion of Russia. As Father Alonso comments: «In October of 1940, Heaven acceded to the desires of Sister Lucy’s superiors, to see the consecration of the world with a special mention of Russia brought about. It is the Lord Himself who suggests such an act.»

But the promise connected with this act is completely different and much more limited: while the consecration of Russia would have brought about its conversion and preserved the world from war, the consecration of the world now suggested would obtain nothing more than «an abbreviation of these days of tribulation» of the world war. 

For the future, while writing down this new request in obedience to her superiors, Sister Lucy could have the certitude that she was not displeasing her Lord. In His infinite kindness, He even benevolently accepted this first solemn act of trust and devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. The act was limited, partial, and incomplete, but it was already to obtain graces of peace for the world.'

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NUY0njQ27Il6Gq3ewd_leKeCFVN0BMY...

[Monessa]

I agree, yesterday's supposed consecration was not done properly. If it was, we would all know without a doubt and the world would be converting but instead, it says the same if not going to get worse before it gets better. So we continue praying, fasting, doing penance, and doing our First Saturdays. Praying for Her Immaculate Heart to Triumph very soon!

[Dawn Marie]

You make a point I also was thinking about yesterday.  When God imparts a massive grace to the Church and one that also affects the world no less, there is almost an inexplicable joy and knowledge and peace that God has done so.  That is one key factor missing from yesterdays act.  There is no great grace coming from Heaven to the members of the Church as is generally the case when something like this happens.  And this situation particularly and especially would see that as a fruit and good consequence if it were acceptable to God.  I wish I had known prior to last night that Our Lord already spoke on this matter to Sister Lucia, I would not have given it a second glance because the outcome has already been determined.

Already I see division...again with Francis and division...among the priests and faithful saying it's done and others saying it isn't.  Division would not be a fruit of this act if it were in fact done and would be seen as such universally.  Grace, unity, joy, peace...these would be the fruits.  But not even 24 hours later we see the opposite.

As well, while all this was going on Francis made sweeping massive diabolical changes to the way the Church is run.  He has essentially put it in the hands of women for one and taken it out of the hands of the clerics and men.  This is a super huge move to further tear down the structure of the Church.  He said he would do these things that he believed would be almost impossible to change long after he is gone and he is in fact doing them.

Does God give the victory of the Immaculate Heart of His Holy Mother to the very one destroying His Church and blaspheming Him and His Holy Mother at every turn?  No, it's very simple...no He does not.  Perhaps a repentant man but not to one who remains solidly and obstinately as well as defiantly set in sin and publicly no less. 

I was hoping for some incredible unforeseen miracle yesterday, highly unlikely, but I hoped nonetheless.  There was no such thing that happened.  So we or I continue to wait and pray.

Monessa said:

I agree, yesterday's supposed consecration was not done properly. If it was, we would all know without a doubt and the world would be converting but instead, it says the same if not going to get worse before it gets better. So we continue praying, fasting, doing penance, and doing our First Saturdays. Praying for Her Immaculate Heart to Triumph very soon!

[Joseph]

Prayer and penance.

[Dawn Marie]

Posted by Father Kramer  March 23, 2022:

BERGOGLIO'S CONSECRATION WILL NOT FULFILL OUR LADY OF FATIMA'S REQUEST FOR THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA

THE MARCH 25, 2022 ACT OF CONSECRATION WILL NOT VALIDLY FULFILL OUR LADY'S REQUEST. EVEN IF PERFORMED BY A VALID POPE, THE BERGOGLIAN CONSECRATION WILL BE INCOMPLETE, LACKING TWO ESSENTIAL ELEMENTS, SPECIFIED IN THE PUBLISHED DOCUMENTOS AND OTHER HANDWRITTEN PAPERS OF SR. LUCIA OF FATIMA, AS WELL AS IN HER FORMAL STATEMENT TO THE APOSTOLIC NUNCIO, MONS. SANTE PORTALUPI IN 1982*: 1) RUSSIA MUST BE THE FORMAL OBJECT OF THE CONSECRATION, 2) OUR LADY REQUESTED THAT THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA BE PERFORMED BY THE POPE IN A SOLEMN AND PUBLIC CEREMONY, TOGETHER WITH ALL THE BISHOPS OF THE WORLD, EACH IN HIS OWN CATHEDRAL. FATHER GRUNER AND I HAVE AMPLY PROVEN AND COPIOUSLY DOCUMENTED IN OUR BOOKS AND ARTICLES THAT ONLY A CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA, DONE IN THE MANNER SPECIFIED ABOVE, WILL FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS DEMANDED BY GOD TO CONVERT AND SAVE RUSSIA, TO AVERT THE PUNISHMENT OF THE WORLD BY WAR, HUNGER, AND PERSECUTION OF THE CHURCH, AND BRING A LASTING PEACE TO THE WORLD.

A PROPERLY WORDED CONSECRATION WAS DONE BY PIUS XII IN 1952, BUT WITHOUT THE PARTICIPATION OF THE BISHOPS. IT SPECIFIED RUSSIA "PECULIARISSIMO MODO" AS THE OBJECT OF THE CONSECRATION:

9. Consecration of the peoples of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

We, therefore, so that Ours and your prayers are answered more easily, and to give you a singular attestation of Our particular benevolence, as a few years ago we consecrated the whole world to the Immaculate Heart of the virgin Mother of God, so now, in a way very special, we consecrate all the peoples of Russia to the same Immaculate Heart, in the sure confidence that with the most powerful patronage of the Virgin Mary the vows will happily come true as soon as possible, that We, that you, who all good people form for a true peace, for a fraternal harmony and due freedom to all and in the first place to the church; so that, through the prayer that We raise together with you and with all Christians, the saving kingdom of Christ, which is "the kingdom of truth and life, the kingdom of holiness and grace, the kingdom of justice, love and peace ", ( triumphs in every part of the earth and is firmly established.

And with suppliant invocation we pray to the same most clement Mother, so that she may assist each one of you in the present calamities and obtain for your divine Son that light that comes from Heaven, and implore for your souls that virtue and that strength, by which, sustained by divine grace, may you victoriously overcome every impiety and error.

Rome, at St. Peter's, July 7, 1952, the feast of Saints Cyril and Methodius, the fourteenth year of Our Pontificate. "

9. Consacrazione dei popoli della Russia al Cuore immacolato di Maria

Noi, pertanto, affinché più facilmente le Nostre e le vostre preghiere siano esaudite, e per darvi un singolare attestato della Nostra particolare benevolenza, come pochi anni fa abbiamo consacrato tutto il mondo al Cuore immacolato della vergine Madre di Dio, così ora, in modo specialissimo, consacriamo tutti i popoli della Russia al medesimo Cuore immacolato, nella sicura fiducia che col potentissimo patrocinio di Maria vergine quanto prima si avverino felicemente i voti, che Noi, che voi, che tutti i buoni formano per una vera pace, per una fraterna concordia e per la dovuta libertà a tutti e in primo luogo alla chiesa; in maniera che, mediante la preghiera che Noi innalziamo insieme con voi e con tutti i cristiani, il regno salvifico di Cristo, che è «regno di verità e di vita, regno di santità e di grazia, regno di giustizia, di amore e di pace»,( in ogni parte della terra trionfi e si consolidi stabilmente.

E con supplice invocazione preghiamo la medesima Madre clementissima, perché assista ciascuno di voi nelle presenti calamità e ottenga al suo divin Figlio per le vostre menti quella luce che proviene dal Cielo, e impetri per le anime vostre quella virtù e quella fortezza, per cui, sorretti dalla divina grazia, possiate vittoriosamente superare ogni empietà ed errore.

Roma, presso San Pietro, 7 luglio 1952, festa dei santi Cirillo e Metodio, anno XIV del Nostro pontificato."

Nos interea, ut Nostrae vestraeque preces supplicationesque facilius exaudiantur, utque singulare erga vos benevolentiae Nostrae praebeamus documentum, quemadmodum paucis ante annis universum hominum genus Immaculato Deiparae Virginis Cordi consecravimus, ita in praesens cunctos Russiarum populos eidem Immaculato Cordi peculiarissimo modo dedicamus ac consecramus, fore omnino sperantes ut quae Nos, quae vos, quae boni omnes verae pacis, fraternae concordiae debitaeque omnibus, imprimisque Ecclesiae, libertatis vota facimus, ea, potentissimo suffragante Mariae Virginis patrocinio, quam primum feliciter effecta dentur; ita quidem ut — vobis una Nobiscum cunctisque christianis gentibus comprecantibus — salutiferum Iesu Christi Regnum, quod est « Regnum veritatis et vitae, Regnum sanctitatis et gratiae, Regnum iustitiae, amoris et pacis » (Praef. in festo I. Ch. Regis) ubique terrarum firmiter constabiliatur.

Atque eamdem clementissimam Matrem supplici rogamus prece ut vos cunctos universos in praesentibus rerum augustiis tueatur ; atque a Divino Filio suo illam mentibus vestris obtineat lucem, quae a Caelo oritur, illam animis vestris impetret virtutem fortitudinemque, qua quidem, caelesti suffulti gratia, errores impietatesque omnes evincere ac superare possitis.

Datum Romae, apud S. Petrum, die VII mensis Iulii, in festo Ss. Cyrilli et Methodii anno MDCCCCLII, Pontificatus Nostri quarto decimo.

PIUS PP. XII

THE FORMULATION OF THE BERGOGLIAN CONSECRATION IS SUFFERS THE DEFECT OF INCOMPLETENESS LIKE THE 1942 CONSECRATION OF THE WORLD, IN SO FAR AS IT INCLUDED RUSSIA, BUT DID NOT SPECIFY RUSSIA "PECULIARISSIMO MODO" AS THE OBJECT OF THE CONSECRATION.

"to your Immaculate Heart we solemnly entrust and consecrate ourselves, the Church and all humanity, especially Russia and Ukraine."

1942 "INCOMPLETE" CONSECRATION OF THE WORLD INCLUDING RUSSIA

To You, and to Your Immaculate Heart, in this tragic hour of human history, we entrust and consecrate ourselves, not only in union with the Holy Church – the Mystical Body of Your Son Jesus – which suffers and sheds its blood, prey to tribulations in so many places and so many ways, but also in union with the whole world, torn by bitter strife, consumed by the fire of hatred, and victim of its own wickedness. ... Give peace to the people separated by error and schism, particularly those who have a special devotion to You and among whom there was no home where Your venerable icon was not honoured, and where, at present, it may be hidden in the hope for better days. Bring them back to the One Fold of Christ, under the One True Shepherd.

INCOMPLETENESS OF THE ACT

On the 28th of February, Sr. Lucia wrote to the Bishop of Gurza: “The Good Lord has already showed me his satisfaction with the action undertaken by the Holy Father and by several bishops, even although according to his desire, it is incomplete. He promises in return to end the war soon. The conversion of Russia is not for now”.

Likewise, on the 4th of May 1943 she wrote to Father Gonçalves: “He [Our Lord] promises to end the war soon in consideration of the action which the Holy Father deigned to undertake. But as it was not complete, the conversion of Russia will be for later."

IT IS THSREFORE TO BE CONCLUSIVELY JUDGED THAT THE BERGOGLIAN CONSECRATION OF HUMANITY, ALONG WITH RUSSIA AND UKRAINE WILL NOT FULFILL THE CONDITIONS OF THE REQUESTED CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA BY OUR LADY OF FATIMA, AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, THE FULFILLMENT OF OUR LADY'S PROMISE IS NOT FOR NOW.

* "On March 21, 1982, Sister Lucy met with the Papal Nuncio to Portugal, Most Rev. Sante Portalupi, precisely to discuss how the consecration the Pope had planned for May 13 of that year should be carried out. The Nuncio was informed as follows:

Sister Lucy explained that the Pope must choose a date upon which His Holiness commands the bishops of the entire world to make, each in his own Cathedral and at the same time as the Pope, a solemn and public ceremony of Reparation and Consecration of Russia …20" [Fatima Crusader]

[Dawn Marie]

https://rumble.com/vyokij-pope-francis-consecration-of-russia-to-ma...

[Dawn Marie]

Paul Kramer

Russia has not yet converted. Russia will invade all Europe. Russia will wage war on North America. Russia will not be converted until it is properly consecrated. However, consecration is not done formally and per se for the purpose of conversion, although conversion will be a major effect of Russia's consecration. Consecration dedicates a person, a thing, a nation to the service of God. Conversion is a necessary precondition which disposes the consecrated thing for that service, but is not the formally intended effect of consecration. If the conversion of Russia alone were willed by God, He would have simply asked the pope to offer solemn prayers for that purpose. However, God has something more than just the conversion of Russia which He intends to accomplish -- a divinely appointed mission for Russia that requires consecration.

[marie]

I also FEEL heavens instruccions were not followed. The prayer should be short and presice without injecting Into it your own thoughts and feelings. This is not a personal prayer, but a pre-prepared request which was very specific.

[Dawn Marie]

This is genuinely incredible.  Satan walked out on the battlefield of the consecration of Russia, told all of Mary's soldiers to lay down their weapons because it is done and 90% did without question.  I swear this is the twilight zone.  It is the greatest master stroke by the devil in the history of mankind.  The flow of prayers for this to be done was already like a faucet trickling now it's simply a drip coming out once a day.

[Dawn Marie]

Interesting comment from a man who lived in Communism:

Please observe how the Masonic scum Salza twists people's cognition into gradual acceptance of lies. That is how his ilk manipulates masses.

Salza focuses on "how rude people complain about contents of prayer for consecration". Satan does the same trick of the mind; he completely destroyed your first line of defence that reason should have raised up; that is, how is it possible that apostate Bergoglio and his henchmen could even do the consecration?

When you indulge in the "contents of prayer", you already lost the battle. Your reasoning is debilitated because you silently "accepted Bergoglio" as pope, and are now "discussing whether a prayer could be okay for the purpose". So, if things don't work, it must be the prayer then, because you accepted that Bergoglio could be the pope somehow.

Why this happens? Because the urgent need for peace and relief from suffering overwhelms your love for truth.

By peddling SECONDARY narratives, they make you accept destruction of the PRIMARY categories. E.g. when you succumb to "human rights", "equality", "consecration prayers", "forcibly certified elections", "protecting greater goods above the constitution" etc. … then you will silently accept: that two women can marry; male swimmer as a female; a criminal as a valid president; a poison as a vaccine; an apostate Antichrist as a pope; antichurch as the Church; any type of prayer as a ticket to a quick peace, and so on. And they PERSECUTE you if you don't accept these redefined categories. Your reason is destroyed.

This is diabolical. This is pure manipulation.

And this from him:

People's intense desire for peace overwhelms their reason at the expense of the truth. Finally they deny truths to get "any sort of peace".

During the Communism, my people used to say about Communist pressures (which Communists got from the Bolsheviks), "They will ask you if you had given birth to your mother, and you will answer 'yes, I have'".

This is psychological warfare put upon us, these are devil's methods of destructing human mind with one cognitive dissonance after another, (also used in brainwashing). It is how devil and his minions gets more than we think they get.

This fake consecration presided by the Antichrists apostates is like an atomic bomb of cognitive dissonance. Everything in it twists the reason into believing the impossible. It will destroy many of those who claimed to have remained Catholics of some kind.

And this post...how quick people forget:

William Lorenzo Wrote:

Former Nuncio Carlo Maria Vigano spoke of the need to re-consecrate St. Peter’s Basilica after the desecration of the Pachamama event. And now Bergoglio will consecrate Humanity in a basilica where idolatry has been perpetrated? God is not and will not be mocked. The global elites May orchestrate a lull or truce in the Russian-Ukrainian War consequent on the Bergoglian Consecration of Russia to deceive Catholics that we have peace in our time but sooner or later the conflict will escalate from a local kinetic war to a nuclear exchange, the travesty of the Bergoglian consecration just about guarantees that prospect eventually becoming a horrible reality.

[Dawn Marie]

Stigmatist visionary: The 3rd Secret of Fatima will be revealed at the height of a war with Russia

https://rumble.com/vz2z5l-stigmatist-visionary-the-3rd-secret-of-fa...

What Francis has done is the ultimate deception. He was able to fool the masses into believing he did the consecration because most have accepted a false pope for a true one. The truth and the reality are staring the world straight in the face, a person simply has to have the desire to see it. The devil has done this at a time in which we do not have time to say "well let's wait and see if it works". The prayers for this consecration have just dried up and they were already not that great to begin with.

John Henry, at least in my eyes has redeemed himself with this presentation.  His site has between 2 and 4 million views a month and that is a huge platform which can be used to either aid in deceiving souls or saving them.  He's a good man for sure so this is heartening to see he may be seeing the truth on this matter and now sharing it with the world.