Amoris Laetitia

[Susan]

Amoris Laetitia

Well, here it is.   I got up early this morning (west coast...) to read this.  And, as predicted, it did

not disappoint.  With the usual lack of intellectual rigor and deference to the Church Fathers, it continues to promote and encourage a weakening of the Faith and continues to enshrinement the Modernist/Vatican II/Masonic philosophies and applications.  Most of the references (which there are few...) are from the Vatican newspaper L’Osservatore Romano ,   which refers to Pope Francis' homilies and speeches.  Gee, now a newspaper is elevated to the level of encyclicals. 

At the very least, there is one reference to the Summa, but only one, though (as far as I could find), and the sexual education of children was NOT relegated to the Church (not parents) as

was initially suggested in the final pre-draft...but I could have missed some weird wording....)  I needed more coffee at this point but I would have preferred a stiff margarita...really stiff....)  anyway.....

The whole thing started out fairly tame, but got progressively worse: 

...The Holy Father means well.  I truly believe this.  He does have a point(s) with this exhortation, 

    but everything that is presented could be found already published/taught somewhere else.  

...In all fairness he did attempt to stand up for male, for female, for fathers, for mothers, for the   need for a father and a mother in the home, for masculinity and femininity....but he did praise feminism at one point....

...Nothing is defined, typical of Vatican II.  Sin is vague, truth is whatever you want it to be,   

    virtue is mentioned but not defined, the list goes on...

...We all will get to Heaven (not even capitalized) ....don't worry, when our loved one's die,               

we will see them again, in love, of course.

...Eric Fromme is now an authority of Catholic marriage and sex, (heck - why not Freud and Jung?)

...Mercy at all costs... NO TRUTH must be taught and no Teaching of Church doctrine...

...Personal conscience is promoted but no road map, no means on "how to form it" is offered.        Osmosis?  Infused knowledge?  Hug a tree?   Good luck, you are on your own for this one....

...We must fight inequality....we must be equal....Don't forget the poor!

...We are part of the ecology of the Earth....

...No reference to families to encourage religious vocations for the Church.  

...There are some nice sentiments and common sense statements which anyone with a heart can appreciate, but again this publication leaves one wanting more--- more "meat and fat",  more substance, more foundation of stone.  We need real nourishing food.

But again, we get processed boxed food with language we can't stomach.  The devil is in the details, though.

Sigh.....

Thank goodness this is only an exhortation.  The language is weak, and worldly,  typical of whoever writes Francis' stuff.  May be he wrote it this time.  Who knows.

My vote:  Round file this and move on.   Continue to study the Faith and the real Church Fathers.  Our Lord, our Faith, the Church and our children are depending on us.

Susan

[David Kaftal]

Cdl. Burke may have the right attitude. In an article by John Jasevac on LifeSiteNews.com, he says:

Boiled down, Cardinal Burke’s point is essentially this: stop saying the apostolic exhortation is a revolution in Church teaching, because it can’t be a revolution in Church teaching, because the exhortation is non-magisterial and by definition does not have the authority to change church teaching or practice, and to say it has done so causes scandal.

To boil it down even further: the exhortation can’t change church teaching, and therefore it didn’t. Full stop.

At first glance, the argument strikes the reader as a bit…well…beside the point. “What about all those controversial bits!” we want say. “What did you think of those?” And on that matter, the cardinal simply has nothing to say – at least, not yet. In fact, the most striking thing about His Eminence’s response is that he barely references the text of the exhortation, at all. For the purposes of the cardinal’s argument, the document could have claimed that the moon is made of blue cheese, or that it would be pastorally beneficial for Catholics to jump on one foot three times per day.

[Bill]

I believe similar things were said about the documents of Vatican II. And look where that's gotten us.

[David Kaftal]

Yes, the destruction was accomplished using smoke and mirrors, and continues to be done by smoke and mirrors. The problem is that most people don't care about truth any more.

[Bill]

2000 years later and Our Lord's Priests are still echoing Pilate. One is tempted to be discouraged. St Philomena Pray for us. St John Eudes Pray for us. St Jean Vianney, Pray for us. All the Virgin Martyrs, Pray for us.

[David Kaftal]

The best and most encouraging analogy I've encountered is that the Church is going through its Passion, prior to its Glorious Resurrection, just as Our Lord did.

Bill said:

2000 years later and Our Lord's Priests are still echoing Pilate. One is tempted to be discouraged. St Philomena Pray for us. St John Eudes Pray for us. St Jean Vianney, Pray for us. All the Virgin Martyrs, Pray for us.