Eleison Comments April 16th 2016 ~ Erroneous Vision
Erroneous Vision
A leader of the Society seems to think
That Rome will make it float. ’Twill make it sink!
Fr. Franz Schmidberger, former Superior General of the Society of St Pius X from 1982 to 1994 and present Rector of the Society’s German Seminary in Zaitzkofen, Bavaria, has recently put into circulation “Considerations on the Church and on the Society’s position within the Church.” In three pages firmly promoting the acceptance by the Society from Pope Francis of a Personal Prelature which would bring the Society back into the official Church underneath the Pope, Fr Schmidberger shows a very inadequate grasp of the problem in Conciliar Rome, hardly mentioning Vatican II.
He begins by presenting the Catholic Church as containing human and fallible elements which required Archbishop Lefebvre to found in 1970 the SSPX to save the priesthood, the Mass and the Social Kingship of Christ the King. In 1975 the SSPX was condemned by the official Church, but it thrived. The consecration of four Society bishops in 1988 manifested the contradiction between Rome and the SSPX, but the Archbishop still strove, after as before, for a solution. From 2000 Romans, honest or dishonest, also sought for a solution. Now in 2016 they are easing up on their demands for the SSPX to accept the Council and the New Mass.
COMMENT: This is a relatively superficial view of the utterly radical attack launched against the Faith and Truth itself by Freemasonic churchmen during and after Vatican II. Fr. Schmidberger sees merely misguided Roman churchmen whose coming to their Catholic senses can be seriously helped forward if only the SSPX is officially recognized. Does he have any idea of that leprosy of the modernist mind which the SSPX would much more likely catch than cure if it went in with these Romans?
Secondly, Fr Schmidberger presents half a dozen arguments in favour of accepting the Personal Prelature. The SSPX must regain normality. It must not by its present “exile” lose the sense of the Church. Doors would open in Rome. The SSPX urgently needs Rome’s permission to consecrate more bishops. A good sign is the anxiety of some modernists at the prospect of the SSPX’s normalisation. And finally, how else can the Church’s present crisis be solved than by the SSPX coming out of its “exile” and converting the Romans?
COMMENT: The SSPX convert these Romans? What an illusion! Again, Fr Schmidberger has little to no idea of the deep perversion of modernism which he is up against. It is not “normal” for Catholics to submit to modernists. “Exile” need not mean loss of the sense of the Church. No important doors would open in Rome. The Faith does not need bishops approved by modernists. Any anxious modernists are naive – the real modernists know that they will convert the Society and not the other way round, once they can close the trap. And finally the Church crisis will certainly not be solved by a deluded SSPX joining Rome, but only by God, whose arm is not shortened by the wickedness of men (Isaiah, LIX, 1).
Finally, Fr Schmidberger answers some objections: Pope Francis may not be a good Pope, but he has the jurisdiction to normalize the SSPX. The opinion of the
“Resistance” does not matter since it has no sense of the Church and is divided.
The SSPX will not be muzzled because Rome will “accept it as it is” (illusion), nor will it lose its identity, because with God’s help it will convert Rome (illusion). Nor will it fail to resist like all other Traditional Congregations have failed that have gone in with Rome, because it is Rome that is begging while the SSPX is choosing (illusion), and because the SSPX has resistant bishops (illusion), and because it will be given a Personal Prelature (to bring it under modernists).
COMMENT: In other words the Roman trap will be lined with cushions. What a series of illusions! Poor SSPX! Let us pray for the saving of whatever can still be saved of it.
Kyrie eleison.
Letter of Fr. Schmidberger can be found HERE in English
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Permalink Reply by Dawn Marie on
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Amen+
I love how he always manages to make clear the murky waters. Thank you dear bishop+
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It seems so Joseph. I don't know how kindly Rome will look upon this....
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/farmingville-church-misu...
Attorney John Ray, left, and his wife, Madeleine Kristoffersson, listen as their daughter, Ruby Ray, describes what she saw and heard at Our Lady of Good Success Academy, a private school operated by St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church in Farmingville. Photo Credit: Joseph D. Sullivan
An ultraconservative Catholic church in Farmingville that still celebrates Mass in Latin has misused donations from parishioners to spread anti-Semitic and anti-U.S. propaganda, a lawsuit filed by a Miller Place attorney alleges.
St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church, part of a network of churches founded by excommunicated Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre of France, is promoting “virulent, vicious and anti-Semitic literature and dogma,” attorney John Ray said at a news conference in his office Monday.
The lawsuit, filed April 6 in State Supreme Court in Riverhead, alleges that the church and its small school used nearly $50,000 in donations earmarked for a new school building for anti-Semitic literature that denies the Holocaust occurred or that Hitler’s Nazi regime used gas chambers to exterminate Jews.
“It’s more than disturbing that in this day and age [there] can be such poison . . . in a Catholic church and school,” said Madeleine Kristoffersson, Ray’s wife and also a plaintiff in the suit, along with their daughter.
The Rev. Nicholas Gardner, rector of the church and its Our Lady of Good Success Academy, said Monday he could not comment pending instructions by superiors in the Society of St. Pius X, the group Lefebvre founded before his excommunication in 1988.
Lefebvre branched off from the Roman Catholic Church in 1968 after disagreeing with changes made by the Vatican II reforms. He died in 1991.
Ray and his family said they have been parishioners at the church since 2012, and that Kristoffersson had become the director of its choir. They had hoped to place their daughter in the school full-time.
After they discovered allegedly anti-Semitic books and materials in the church’s bookstore and complained about them — along with the allegedly misused donations — church leaders verbally attacked them, Ray said.
Kristoffersson said Gardner publicly scolded and belittled them from the pulpit during three Masses this past Holy Week and asked them to drop out of the church.
“It was a witch hunt from the pulpit of God,” Kristoffersson said at the news conference.
he lawsuit, which also names the school’s principal, Thomas B. Gabriele, and other local church workers, also alleges teachers are underqualified and that school funds are being used to send them on a “first-class” art tour of Italy.
The school teaches students that “the USA is evil, that it has been taken over in a historical conspiracy of Jews, who they say caused the Civil War, WWI and WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the war in Iraq and Syria, and the War on Terror, and that the Jews were responsible for the 9/11 attack,” the lawsuit states.
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Yes they are pretty good people. Sad to see this happen to them :(
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Something else Fr. Schmidberger at al are not addressing :(
Question put to the Pope (from The Creative Minority Report)
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Permalink Reply by Michael on
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This is a hit piece. I am wondering just what they think they can be awarded. Emotional distress? Their lawsuit is more to discredit than anything else. Smear tactics of incompetent teachers, misuse of funds, and the antisemite bugaboo. what was this horrendous literature? Father Denis Fahey? It is convenient that the husband is also the plaintiff lawyer. The first clue wold have been her keeping her last name. They will win, even if the lawsuit is withdrawn. The leadership will quickly send out a letter to purge all materials in the bookstores that can even be construed as hostile to the deal. Better get your hard copies of Archbishop Lefebvre's work while you still can.
Dawn Marie said:It seems so Joseph. I don't know how kindly Rome will look upon this....
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/farmingville-church-misu...
Attorney John Ray, left, and his wife, Madeleine Kristoffersson, listen as their daughter, Ruby Ray, describes what she saw and heard at Our Lady of Good Success Academy, a private school operated by St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church in Farmingville. Photo Credit: Joseph D. Sullivan
An ultraconservative Catholic church in Farmingville that still celebrates Mass in Latin has misused donations from parishioners to spread anti-Semitic and anti-U.S. propaganda, a lawsuit filed by a Miller Place attorney alleges.
St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church, part of a network of churches founded by excommunicated Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre of France, is promoting “virulent, vicious and anti-Semitic literature and dogma,” attorney John Ray said at a news conference in his office Monday.
The lawsuit, filed April 6 in State Supreme Court in Riverhead, alleges that the church and its small school used nearly $50,000 in donations earmarked for a new school building for anti-Semitic literature that denies the Holocaust occurred or that Hitler’s Nazi regime used gas chambers to exterminate Jews.
“It’s more than disturbing that in this day and age [there] can be such poison . . . in a Catholic church and school,” said Madeleine Kristoffersson, Ray’s wife and also a plaintiff in the suit, along with their daughter.
The Rev. Nicholas Gardner, rector of the church and its Our Lady of Good Success Academy, said Monday he could not comment pending instructions by superiors in the Society of St. Pius X, the group Lefebvre founded before his excommunication in 1988.
Lefebvre branched off from the Roman Catholic Church in 1968 after disagreeing with changes made by the Vatican II reforms. He died in 1991.
Ray and his family said they have been parishioners at the church since 2012, and that Kristoffersson had become the director of its choir. They had hoped to place their daughter in the school full-time.
After they discovered allegedly anti-Semitic books and materials in the church’s bookstore and complained about them — along with the allegedly misused donations — church leaders verbally attacked them, Ray said.
Kristoffersson said Gardner publicly scolded and belittled them from the pulpit during three Masses this past Holy Week and asked them to drop out of the church.
“It was a witch hunt from the pulpit of God,” Kristoffersson said at the news conference.
he lawsuit, which also names the school’s principal, Thomas B. Gabriele, and other local church workers, also alleges teachers are underqualified and that school funds are being used to send them on a “first-class” art tour of Italy.
The school teaches students that “the USA is evil, that it has been taken over in a historical conspiracy of Jews, who they say caused the Civil War, WWI and WWII, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the war in Iraq and Syria, and the War on Terror, and that the Jews were responsible for the 9/11 attack,” the lawsuit states.
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