ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE AND HIS THOUGHTS ABOUT THE NEW CHURCH-THE CONCILIAR CHURCH

[Dawn Marie]

ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE AND HIS THOUGHTS ABOUT THE NEW CHURCH-THE CONCILIAR CHURCH




"You continue to represent the true Church, the Catholic Church.


I think you need to be convinced of this: you really represent the Catholic Church.


I don’t say there is no Church out of us, it’s not about that. But recently, we are told that it was necessary that the tradition enter into the visible Church.


I think a very, very serious mistake is committed here.


Where is the visible church? The visible church is recognized by the features that have always given to visibility: one, holy, catholic and apostolic.


I ask: Where are the true marks of the Church? Are they more in the official Church (this is not the visible Church, but the official church) or in us, in what we represent, what we are?


Clearly we are who preserve the Unity of the faith, which disappeared from the official Church.


One bishop believes in this, the other not, faith is different, their catechisms contain abominable heresies. Where is the unity of the faith in Rome?


Where is the unity of faith in the world? It is in us, we who preserve it.


The unity of the faith held in the whole world is the Catholicity. Now this unity of faith around the world no longer exists, practically, there is no more Catholicity.


There will soon be as many Catholic churches as bishops and dioceses. Everyone has their way of seeing, thinking, preaching, making his catechism. There is no catholicity anymore.


Where is the Apostolicity? They broke with the past. They do not want to know any more of the past before Vatican II.


See the Pope's Motu Proprio [Ecclesia Dei adflicta of 1988] that condemns us: "the living Tradition, it is Vatican II". It is not necessary to refer to before Vatican II which means nothing.


The Church carries the Tradition with her from century to century. What happened, happened, it disappeared. The whole Tradition is in the Church of today. Which is this tradition? What it is linked to? How is it linked with the past?


It is what allows them to say the opposite of what was said before, intending, at the same time, to keep Tradition by themselves.


This is what the Pope [John Paul II] asks us: “to submit to the living tradition.” We would have a “wrong” concept of tradition, because for them, Tradition is living and therefore evolutionary.


But this is a modernist error: the holy Pope Pius X in his encyclical "Pascendi" condemns these terms of "living tradition”, “living Church", "living faith", etc.., In the sense that the modernists understand it, that is, of the evolution that depends on historical circumstances. The truth of Revelation, the explanation of revelation, depends on historical circumstances.


Apostolicity: we are united to the Apostles by the authority. My priesthood comes from the Apostles; your priesthood will come from the Apostles.


We are the children of those who gave us the Episcopate. My episcopate descends from the saint Pope Pius V and for him; we go back to the Apostles.


As for the apostolic faith, we believe the same faith as the Apostles. We do not change anything and we do not want to change anything.


Then the Holiness. We are not going to do compliments or praises to us. If we don’t want to consider ourselves, let’s consider the others and let’s consider the fruits of our apostolate, the fruits of the vocations, of our religious and the fruits of Catholic families.


The good and holy Catholic families germinate thanks to your apostolate. It is a fact, nobody denies it. Even progressive visitors of Rome stated the good quality of our work.


When Mgr Perl said the sisters of Saint Pré and Fanjeaux that in bases like this it will be necessary to reconstruct the Church, it is not, regardless, a small compliment.


All this shows that we are the one who have the features of the Church visible.


If there is still a visibility of the Church today is thanks to you. These signs are not already in the other.


There is no longer in them the unity of the faith, now it is the faith which is the basis of all visibility of the Church.


Catholicity is the [mark of the] faith the one in space.


Apostolicity is the [mark of the] faith the one in time.


Holiness is the fruit of faith, as embodied in the soul by the grace of God, by the grace of the Sacraments.


It is completely false to consider us as if we were not part of the visible Church. That's incredible!


It is the official Church the one that rejects us, but not us who reject the Church, far from that. On the contrary, we are always united to the Roman Church and even the Pope of course, the successor of Peter.


I think we must have this conviction to avoid falling into the errors that are now spreading.


Of course, it could be objected: "Is it necessarily necessary, to be out of the visible Church to keep the soul, leaving the society of the faithful united with the Pope"?


We are not, but the modernists who leave the Church.


As to say "leave the Church Visible" is to be wrong, assimilating official Church to the visible Church.


We belong to the visible Church, the society of the faithful under the authority of the Pope, because we do not reject the authority of the Pope, but what he does.


We recognize the authority of the Pope, but when he uses his authority to do the opposite of that for which it has been given, it is clear that we cannot follow him.


Therefore, is it necessary to leave the official Church? To some extent, yes, obviously.


The whole book of Mr. Madiran "The Heresy of the Twentieth Century" is the story of the heresy of the bishops.


It is therefore necessary to leave the bishops’ environment, if you do not want to lose the soul.


But that's not enough, as it is in Rome where the heresy is settled. If the bishops are heretics (even without taking this term in his canonical sense and consequences) is not without the influence of Rome.


If we move away from these people, is quite the same way as people with AIDS. There is no desire to catch it. Now, they have spiritual AIDS, infectious diseases. If you want to save your health, you need not to go with them.



Yes! Liberalism and modernism were introduced at the Council and within the Church. The revolutionary ideas and the Revolution, who were in the society, went on to church.


Cardinal Ratzinger, on the other hand, does not hide it: They adopted ideas, not those of the Church, but those of the world and they consider their duty to make them enter the Church.


But the authorities did not change one iota their ideas about the Council, liberalism and modernism. They are anti-tradition, Tradition as it should be understood, as the Church understands it.


That does not fit their conception. Theirs is an “evolving” concept. They are therefore against this fixed tradition in which we stand.



We believe that everything the catechism teaches us, comes from Our Lord and the Apostles, and that there is nothing to change.


For them, no, everything is evolving and evolved with Vatican II. The current term of “evolution” is Vatican II.


This one is the reason for which we cannot link with Rome.


Whatever happens, we must continue as we have done, and the Good Lord shows us that following this route, we fulfill our duty.


We do not deny the Roman Church. We do not deny their existence, but we cannot follow their directives. We cannot follow the principles of the Council. We cannot relate.


I realized the desire of Rome to impose their ideas and their way of seeing. Cardinal Ratzinger always told me "But Monsignor, there is only one Church, it is not necessary to make a parallel church."


Which is this Church for him? The Conciliar Church, this is clear.


When he explicitly said to us: "Obviously, if this protocol [of 1988] is granted to you, you must also accept what we do, therefore, in the church Saint-Nicolas-du-Chardonnet it will be necessary also to say a new mass every Sunday " …


You see he wanted to lead us to the Conciliar Church. This is not possible since it is clear that they want to impose these innovations on us to end the Tradition.


They do not grant anything for appreciation of the traditional liturgy, but simply to cheat those to whom they give it and to diminish our resistance; to insert a wedge in the traditional block to destroy it.


This is their policy, their conscious tactics. They do not make a mistake, and you know the pressures that they exert..."

“THE VISIBILITY OF THE CHURCH”

Archbishop Lefebvre's conference

to the priests at Ecône, September 9 1988.

(Magazine Fideliter, N° 66 november-december 1988)

[Dawn Marie]

"The Catholic faithful have a strict right to know that the priests to whom they have recourse are not in communion with a counterfeit Church which is evolutionary, pentecostalist, syncretist."

Archbishop Lefebvre, Open Letter to Cardinal Gantin, Prefect of the Congregation of Bishops.  Econe; 6th July, 1988)

[Dawn Marie]

You are aware that in various writings appearing here and there I have had occasion to say that, yes, I was waiting for signs from Providence to carry out acts seeming to me necessary for the continuation of the Catholic Church. Well, I have to admit that I am convinced that the signs have come. What are they? There are two of them: -the ecumenical meeting held in Assisi last October, and the reply Rome has made to the objections we had sent them concerning religious liberty.

And I state further that this reply made to us after Assisi -since Assisi took place on October 27, whereas the reply reached us this January - I state that Rome's reply to the objections we made to the errors of Vatican II on religious liberty, is graver than Assisi. Assisi is a historical fact, an action; the reply to our objections on religious liberty is a stand taken on principles, a statement of principles, and hence graver! It is one thing to commit a grave and scandalous action; it is quite another to state false and erroneous principles which work out in practice in utterly disastrous conclusions!

Hence it is providential that by a particular set of circumstances we wrote the book that appeared just a few days ago, entitled: "They Have Uncrowned Him." Who? Who did the uncrowning and who was uncrowned? Who was uncrowned? Our Lord Jesus Christ. Who uncrowned him? The authorities in Rome today. And the uncrowning shows in a very clear way in the Assisi ceremony. Jesus Christ is uncrowned. He is no longer King. Universal King, the King we proclaim in our liturgy from Christmas through to His Ascension. All the Liturgical feasts proclaim the kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ.  From end to end of the Liturgical year we chant:

"King of Kings, Lord of Lords," Our Lord Jesus Christ. But now instead of extolling the kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ, here they are instituting a pantheon of all religions. And just as it was the Roman authorities, or pagan emperors, who built the pagan Pantheon then, so too the pagan pantheon of today, the meeting-place of all religions, is being constructed by the church authorities of Rome! What an immense scandal for souls, for Catholics who already question the universal kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ!

This is exactly what is meant by liberalism. Liberalism means establishing the freedom of man from God; hence the man who believes in, hopes in, and professes any religion whatsoever is just as worthy of respect as the man who says he professes the true religion. According to Liberalism, the State, or civil society. is no longer capable of knowing which is the true religion. That much is stated in the document given us by Rome: the State is incompetent in matters of religion, and so cannot decide which is the true or false religion, and by that very fact is bound to allow within the "autonomous social area” -as they call it, autonomous social area meaning practically the entire life of the State - is bound to allow all religious errors to spread, whatever they be, because man is free to have his own religion. Well, we say no, no, no!

And Holy Mass proves it to us: there is one law, a law of love, and Our Lord Jesus Christ proclaims to us on the Cross this law of love. He preaches it to us. He tells us. "You must obey the law of love. Whosoever does not obey the law of love is not worthy of eternal life." Hence it is a binding law. We are not free. Our holy religion is not a matter of free choice, it is the only one, the one which Our Lord Jesus Christ proclaimed from His Cross.

And liberalism has become the idol of modern times, an idol now adored in most countries of the world, even the Catholic countries -this liberty of man from God, which defies God, which seeks to make its own religion, liberalism, with its own commandments, the rights of man, with its secular states, secular education, empty of God, godless - there is liberalism for you.

And how is it possible for the authorities in Rome to be encouraging liberalism and professing such liberalism in the Decree on Religious Liberty? That is what is so very serious, as I see it. Rome is in darkness, in the darkness of error. There is no denying it. Impossible to deny it. How can we as Catholics, and all the more as priests, bear to look on the spectacle placed before our eyes in Assisi, in St. Peter's Church given over for the practice of their pagan worship to the Buddhists who put their idol on the tabernacle of Jesus Christ, King of Kings, and performed their pagan ceremony in front of this tabernacle, empty no doubt, but capped with a Buddha, their idol. Is it conceivable? In a Catholic Church, a church of Our Lord Jesus Christ? These are facts which speak by themselves. We cannot conceive of an error more grave.

How is it possible? Let us leave the good Lord to answer. He guides all things, He is the master of events, Our Lord Jesus Christ, He knows what will come of this triumph of error over Rome and over the highest authorities, from the Pope to the cardinals and bishops of the entire world following these ideas; for indeed the bishops of the whole world are following the false ideas of the Council with their ecumenism and liberalism. God alone knows where it is all going to end.

For our part, however, if we wish to remain Catholic and to continue the Church, we have the grave and imprescriptible duty binding us firstly to increase the number of priests, priests believing in Our Lord Jesus Christ, in His Kingship, in His kingship over society, according to the Church's doctrine. That is why I am happy that the book on liberalism has appeared today [i.e. "They Have Uncrowned Him"], my dear friends, so that you may nourish your minds on it and grasp in depth what our combat is all about. It is not a human combat! We are at grips with Satan! It is a combat requiring all the supernatural strength we need to fight against the adversary who means to destroy and uproot the Church, who means to destroy everything Our Lord Jesus Christ did. He meant to destroy Our Lord from the moment He was born, and now He means to continue destroying His Mystical Body, to destroy the reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ, to destroy all His institutions whatsoever.

So we must be aware of this dramatic and apocalyptic combat through which we are living, and not play it down, because the moment we play it down, we no longer wish to give battle, we become weaklings and we dare no longer proclaim the Truth; we no longer dare to proclaim the social kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ because our godless and atheistic world does not want to hear of it.

Archbishop Lefebvre @ 29 June 1987