In a message today, Pope Bergoglio said precisely the following:
“How much I would like us to kneel in veneration before the poor in church.”
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Jesus said "The poor you will always have with you." I am not at all surprised
at Francis' disrespect toward Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. I have my doubts
that that mass is even valid or Our Lord is really present.
I tremble to even think it, but of course you are right. The NO is very problematic for many reasons, but most nonsedevacantists agree that it is at least possible that a priest, sincerely intending what the Church intends, may succeed in confecting the Blessed Sacrament during a Novus Ordo Mass, assuming that his ordination and the consecration of the bishop ordaining him were valid. Cans of worms within cans of worms. But Francis certainly gives no indication that he intends what the Church intends; indeed he seems to be trying to change what the Church intends — clearly impossible because the Church is of divine origin and Our Lord promised it would remain indefectible, but he seems determined nonetheless. And yet, these are just appearances. His words are appalling indeed, but still I cannot presume to have knowledge of the inner workings of his mind, despite these very clear appearances. Nevertheless, objectively speaking, it would seem that there is a real possibility that after Francis says the words of Consecration, the bread and wine remain bread and wine. And yet he is pope!
The mind boggles.
Alley said:
Jesus said "The poor you will always have with you." I am not at all surprised
at Francis' disrespect toward Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. I have my doubts
that that mass is even valid or Our Lord is really present.
Does any one remember a few years ago Pope Francis gave an interview with a magazine I believe
the Jesuit Journal?
I cannot remember exact wording but in the interview Pope Francis said several things that make
ME believe (personally) that Pope Francis is not actually a Catholic at all!
Firs,t Pope Francis said that, the understanding of church teaching can be different from what it has
always taught.
Second, he said that the Schismatic Orthodox do NOT have to be converted to the Catholic Faith.
And Third, Pope Francis said that, God does not reject or condemn homosexuals.
Pope Francis Openly teaches that it is wrong to believe, that the churches teaching, that Dogma,
can not have an understanding that is different from what it had before. (I cannot remember exact
wording) To my mind that is not Catholic, no!
I was reading recently that in Vatican 1, that the churches Sacred Dogma must be perpetually retained,
that which the Holy Church has once declared and that once declared there can never be a recession from
that meaning. (I hope I didn't confuse anyone)
Dogma must always be the same Doctrine, the same Sense, the same Understanding. To my mind that means
Dogma does not change.
He, Pope Francis, seems more like an anti-pope.
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